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Echophox
Sun Mar 07 2010, 03:24AM
Echophox

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Hey Guys...
So my PC is fine for this game, but my graphics card either likes seeing me get pwnt in the face, or it is just a piece of junk.
I have an eVGA 9800 GT Superclocked 512mb graphics card. Runs MW2 full specs like a dream. but it cannot seem to cut it for this game. I have every setting on low. Anti Aliasing off, anisotropic filtering off, but still only like 15-20 steady FPD. I've tried overclocking it and it will run the game a bit better, but eventually crashes...So! I got a few options for stuff I can sell, but I am looking for a new graphics card. I'd like to spend around 150-200 (Canadian) for a new card. Any suggestions?
The rest of my PC is as follows
AMD 2.6Ghz Dual Core
2 Gb DDR Ram
500 Gb Harddrive
Windows Vista (what a betch)



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Alazar
Sun Mar 07 2010, 04:01AM
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Here ya go, nicely priced, big improvement over the 9800. It's an equal to a nvidia GTX 260. Only not rediculously over priced.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825

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Skaterdude
Sun Mar 07 2010, 10:49AM

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I honestly don't know if its more your CPU and RAM than your video card.

I'm sure getting a better video card will help but I have a 9800 gtx (which I know isn't the game as a 9800 gt) and I can play the game just fine on medium with DX10/11.

But, I'm running quad core with 6GB of RAM and Windows 7 64 bit.

Have you tried updating your drivers to see if that helps?

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N2DEEP
Sun Mar 07 2010, 11:20AM


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Basically I ran into this situation myself with my 8800 gts. On low I would get 30-50 fps, which ws not bad, but not near as smooth as it should be.

You have a couple of issues with your system:

First off for todays games your processor is underpowered unless you are overclocking it. If possible look at moving to a Quad core, it will help with multiple processing.

Secondly 2GB is a bare minimum for Vista. Vista is known as a resource hog due to its abundance of processing running in the background. Try bumping this up to 4GB (either 2X2Gb or add 2X1 more to your current)

Reality is your video card is OK, but not what you want for quality fps in BC2. Even after optimizations, it can be very taxing. Now I went ahead and upgraded my whole system and got an ati 5870, but that may not be in your budget. There is no need to upgrade your video card if your motherboard can not use all of those new pipelines. The 4870 Alazar shows you is a nice card (never a fan of Sapphire), but it requires your MB to have a PCI-E 2.0 16X port. So if your MB does not have that than your just pissing in the wind.

Here is a chart on graphics cards, running high quality and at decent settings and on a graphically intense game Far Cry 2:

Toms Hardware

Always look for single cards, not those run in SLI or Crossfire. Difference between a 9800 gt and a 4870 is about 12 fps on the high setting, which means at lower qualities it will be even more.

An updated driver can be found here: NVIDIA

Overall if you look to upgrade your video card you may end up upgrading your whole system, because of bottlenecks. IMHO look at a new cpu, mb, ram combo then use your existing card, if that does not help alot, then go for the new card because a video card is one of the most expensive items.



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N2DEEP
Sun Mar 07 2010, 11:31AM


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Also I am an Asus fan and you can get teh 5770 card for $10 cheaper than the 4870 and it gives you 2 extra FPS vs the 4870

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121363



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Echophox
Sun Mar 07 2010, 12:33PM
Echophox

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I have updated to the latest drivers, and I used a driver cleaner on the old ones first like Erratik showed me. That side is good. I will definitely be looking into those cards you guys have recommended. And N2 I currently have a PCI-E 2.0 x16 graphics card, so that part is awesome. When I bought this new mobo I made sure it could handle the latest and greatest...that was last year however. Shortly after posting I was able to find three really good cards at a good Canadian price. Lemme know if they are any good.

Card 1
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462&cm_re=xfx_radeon-_-14-150-462-_-Product

Card 2
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436&Tpk=xfx%20radeon%204870

Card 3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161292&Tpk=his%20radeon%204870

[This is Canadian Pricing BTW...damn you Americans and you're cheaper prices]

I think I will let Erratik tweak my system, and definitely look into overclocking my cpu, I've wanted to anyways. Ram is not a bad idea either....and my dumbass Vista will have to stay, i definitely won't have enough for Win7 yet.

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Skaterdude
Sun Mar 07 2010, 02:45PM

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Echophox wrote ...
I think I will let Erratik tweak my system, and definitely look into overclocking my cpu, I've wanted to anyways. Ram is not a bad idea either....and my dumbass Vista will have to stay, i definitely won't have enough for Win7 yet.


Get a new CPU. You can get a quad core relatively cheap nowadays (especially if you go AMD). For some RAM, look into getting 4GB worth, at least, for optimal use. You can download Windows 7 for free through a torrent if you are looking to upgrade.

I would agree with N2 and say you need to upgrade your CPU and RAM before you go for your video card. If you can the money, get these nice phenoms if they are compatible with your mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

If you are going to upgrade, start with your most outdated parts.

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Echophox
Sun Mar 07 2010, 03:45PM
Echophox

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After discussing this with Erratik I have decided the only way this will be worth the money is to buy a completely new mobo. So I'm looking into it with him. I got about 1000 Canadian to spend which makes it tough. Convincing the wife will be fun. Gonna be about a month before I figure I will be able to afford it after I sell off my current PC and some old goalie equipment. For the time being I'll be online if the mood catches me, but don't count on me for anything important in BC2. But definitely for Cod4 matches. I'm all over that. Thanks for the responses. Wish me luck convincing the wife haha.

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Skaterdude
Sun Mar 07 2010, 05:29PM

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I bought 9800 gtx, intel quad core, 6gb, vista ultimate 64 bit, and a massive case all for about $500.

If you are really trying to save money, see what you can find on craigslist for computers. That's where I got mine and I was completely satisfied with my purchase.

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IcedDeth
Sun Mar 07 2010, 06:21PM
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1. whats your exact CPU chip. you might be able to get the clock a bit higher without any voltage changes or cooling changes.

2. for the price nowadays, go with the 5770 card. 4870 only supports DX10.1 5770 supports DX11 I think. Plus you'll get about the same FPS with both cards. Also, if you're going to buy an ATI card, get a long time ATI distributor. I wouldn't trust an nVidia company like XFX. I'd go with Diamond, Sapphire, Visiontek, or even Radeon itself. To me it would be like buying a PC through Apple....just don't seem right.

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